Tulpa.info - metaphysics

Tulpas originated from Tibetian Buddhisim (edited)

yes they did.. and I study Tibetian stuff though not really the Buddhism. One of my teachers had his teachings from there.

Oh, the Buddhist and Demon servers are separate things

ahh that makes more sense then

12:37 PM

the average Buddhist probably is not even into making Tulpas.

12:38 PM

the Tibetians see Tulpas as "thoughtforms", a type of thoughtform.

12:39 PM

how long have you been a Tulpa for?

I've been a tulpa officially for 1.5 years, but I may be a year older than that. The only other thing I can think is you can scroll up this channel and see if you find anyone you think may be able to help you. You can send them a DM telling them that you practice magic and ask if they are interested in chatting.

I don't really practice magic just are a psychic/spiritual healer... I'm not Wiccian.

12:42 PM

Im a Yogi

I'm sorry, I didn't know

12:43 PM

I know one kid who practices pisonics, and he mentioned healing was his thing I thought

I don't know that term..

I guess that's not a Yogi thing, sorry

I'll look up what that is

12:45 PM

"Psionics is the study of paranormal phenomena in relation to the application of electronics" I guess that means things like spirit boxes and things like that.. no I don't do things like that. I've watched another use one on youtube but think the voices may just be radio channels coming through and just all coincidental the words. (edited)

12:47 PM

I don't believe that one could get a Tulpa to speak through a spirit box

I know some tulpamancers talk to their tulpa through a stuffed animal

12:48 PM

...or a bayblade

I guess they use use the animal then to give them something to focus their thoughtform onto. I guess I do similar as I've used a drawing of Jesse to help connect to him

12:49 PM

and then see the drawing move. It's easier then imagining and seeing him where there is nothing.

It's recommend to draw your tulpa for visualization.

12:50 PM

And yeah, it's easier to see a drawing move

Its also interesting as one sees things get added to the drawing... A cross showed up around Jesse's neck when I was meditating on the drawing.

12:51 PM

which is kind of funny as I are not Christian.. but my tulpa decided to wear a cross. (edited)

Our wonderland is on the cartoony side, so random things like my headmate choosing to wear a builder hat or glasses happen from time to time

Jesse's wonderland probably is still simple as I only worked with him for a short time in the past, though I may be completely wrong (I probably are wrong, seeing I have only seen his wonderland once or twice). It will be interesting when I see it again. He'd put in it a chair, the single bed, a pot plant and had a meditation mat in his living space. (edited)

We don't take our wonderland very seriously... It's just whatever we need it to be, and it's always realtively simple

12:55 PM

We don't have a wonderland map or anything

If my visualisation ever improves.. I'll try to make it a fun place outside of his home. His home will always be his space and his to manifest whatever he wants without any interference from me.

12:57 PM

I'll just keep working on trying to make him appear outside of myself

I'm sorry, but I should go. Good luck!

bye, thank you for the chat. Have a nice day.

You too

Does anyone have a tulpa that wants to be the "subconscious"?

Why in metaphysics tho

I don't know, I just moved a thread on this topic to metaphysics because it involved tulpas having superpowers

1:15 AM

That's the split thread the feed is showing

I don't know, I kinda sorta came out of my host's self-criticism in a way

1:24 AM

Kinda similar to subconscious but not?

Huh, interesting. I was the friendly guy to talk to as a way for Cat (host) to avoid being angry at herself

I mean. Fherla was siphoned, and created, from a dream. Ive heard that dreams are mostly caused by your subconscious. So i guess she is, in a way, my subconscious. Who knows.

Being your subconscious would more mean that it's still a two-way street for that sort of thing

yes dreams come from your subconsciousness... unless you are lucid dreaming then parts of it you can also come from your waking consciousness

Can anyone clarify what a godform is? I just read it somewhere but I'm a little confused

Alright thanks

it's a step further along than a egregore. Egregores are formed by more than one... a God form is formed by a very large group consciousness eg may be formed by a whole culture (and not usually formed on purpose) and they just grow stronger and stronger due to their devotees. God forms can carry a lot of power and ability to affect physical reality. Tulpa, Egregore, God-form .. they all are created from thoughtforms (or thoughts). (edited)

Oh wow that's sounds interesting! Thanks for replying

Have a declassified document from the department of defense talking about tulpas that was hosted on https://www.dod.mil/pubs/foi/homeland_defense/UFOs/Bearden_UFO_ADA068988.pdf about 7 years ago. It gets into some weird things.

Bearden_UFO_ADA068988.pdf

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Sounds very tinfoil hat to me

"If one accepts the existence of the collective human unconscious as a living biosystem, four-billion dimensional, then it is a living entity --indeed, a great superentity, of which our own personal consciousnesses/personal unconsciousnesses are parts. Thus each of us is a cell in this great entity. Let us tentatively call it ZARG. ZARG has unique characteristics. It is "unconscious" by definit1on, hence "sleeping." Further, its "conscious mind" is fragmented into four billion pieces -- our own personal consciousnesses. In psychology, fragmentation of the conscious mind is technically called dissociation, and severe dissociation classically defines psychosis. Thus ZARG may be considered totally insane. " (from the declassified document). I think that is interesting as it's what I believe about GOD possibly being a creation of human subconsciousness (a God-form) and it working us then through that and capable of real manifestation. (edited)

1:28 PM

I managed to follow it till it got into the UFOs being a form of thoughtform or tulpa coming from the subconsciousness to represent a certain subconscious symbol. I worked with the subconsciousness symbolism for many years and that guy is really grasping at straws lol. (edited)

"tulpoidal"

2:21 PM

Absolutely am going to start using this

2:21 PM

(From the pdf Pleeb sent) (edited)

2:24 PM

Although I do think the PDF stinks of horse hockey a little

Ah yes

2:25 PM

MK Ultra

I don't think that's what that is

Oh really

2:29 PM

It sounds like it

2:30 PM

Using tulpas and controlled hallucination as some form of mind control

2:30 PM

Our government did some crazy shit back in the 70's

The document says it's prepared for MUFON, which is a Ufology organization

So its not credible

It gets pretty crazy

Oh my god I'm russian

7:38 PM

The russians made me, how couldn't I see it before??

Look into the "noosphere"

7:40 PM

Interesting read

Does that, by chance, have anything to do with remote control nooses?

I watch a quite scary documentary on youtube the other day about some of the mind experiments which were done. They found they can destroy most peoples minds in 3 days just by depriving that person from their senses.. it drove most crazy. So it seems we need the reality around us that we are in to keep our reality. (edited)

I think it's all connected

2:38 AM

This could be connected to the Philadelphia Experiment

I just love the feel of my face being melded with the hull of a ship

LOL

Unrelatedly I decided to databend an image of the USS Eldridge and I posted that in #media

I was surprised that this server didnt have a meme channel. Then i realized, this is the ”meme channel” kappa

#media is basically the meme channel, so post them there. (edited)

@Svea that kind of behavior/reaction is a great way to offend people btw. It's possible to be respectful regarding views you don't have.

thank you Cadey

1:58 AM

I don't understand how people can dish those who have metaphysical beliefs esp when most of the population have them.. peoples belief systems themselves are metaphysical.. whether you believe in GOD, Buddha or whatever.. so nearly everyone carries some kind of metaphysical view of something. (edited)

1:59 AM

Maybe next time someone wants to make fun of someone who has metaphysical beliefs.. ask yourself do you yourself believe in the holy spirit, GOD or something else which is religious and cant be proved. Do you believe in something science has not been able to prove and is scientifically accepted? (edited)

I personally understand why the meta/science divide exists. For example, I'm not well exposed to metaphysical trains of thought, and if I tried to ask questions I would be asking a lot of noob questions. Those who are not noobs or don't want to answer noob questions won't want to talk to those people, hence a divide will start to form. Eventually, small groups will turn into clusters and later into communities. What I don't like is when people are mean, especially when you have people who shun or make fun of people with different beliefs. In this community, it's not uncommon for meta to get treated like dirt, and understandably, the meta practitioners left because they got frustrated with how they were treated. I know I will have lots of beginner questions and more likely than not find times where I disagree, however I can still learn from your perspective and get new ideas.

I think science is just another religion, but that's another topic for another day

.. got to be careful even when it comes to science as lots of studies are later proven to be wrong. There are currently big issues with science that many in that field are currently trying to change eg people not publishing unless they get the results they were expecting (that esp happens in when the study has been funded by ones who have biased in the results. Sometimes studies are done multiple times for the "right" results for publishing). The science field is currently full of corruption (big companies are running the world), something like a quarter or a third of studies should not even have been published (i forget but there was a study done on that). (edited)

2:21 AM

Ranger it's sad to read that the meta practioners left here due to their treatment.

The term for that is Think Tank. It's a study that's designed to prove or disprove a certain thing without any regard for the truth.

I find belief in God to be pretty rediculous as well, but I don't make fun of people who believe in religion or magic because that's rude and only contributes to hostility. furthermore, being confrontational like that tends to just make people defensive and make them double down on their belief

*ridiculous

4:23 PM

When you're raised to believe something, it's a lot harder to come out of that

Scientism

11:49 PM

@A long kiss goodnight the problem is that it became a meme to shit on the kind of people who post here. A lot of people in this community have history with religion, and this looks something like religious belief to people who read this channel from a moving car. Belief is a powerful tool and prisonmaster.

hmm

Do you guys even get what science is about? Its about making models about the world that also accurately predict outcomes.

conversation moving over from another room. I know one reason why at least one OBE study failed. They wanted people to try to read a card they had placed somewhere. One issue with OBE is that it is possible to be in a different time when you get out and you may not know .. so say they put the card on a table and tell people to read it. The person may not see that card but may see another which could of been placed there at another time. It's important not to ever place another card in that same location. I would never do an OBE test with things placed on a table for that reason

Studies are done consistently on the claims of people who perform the study

5:03 PM

So if time was a factor, then that could be considered, and the people who do these studies claim to be able to see the card.

5:03 PM

What ends up happening with explanations such as your is that every time a study is done on the new explanation then that study also fails, until the goalpost is moved to the point at which it is no longer able to be studied.